How do you escape from the burnout trap? What is the path from merely existing to really living? What will our kids learn from our work habits? Today’s guest is from Hawaii, but not too long ago, he lived in Milwaukee, WI. He was sleeping 4 hours a night as a bread delivery guy and not getting much time with his kids, but now he’s writing and speaking and loving life. How can such a change occur? Let’s find out!

How important are failures in the process of success? Just how different is a career in computer science in 1977 from the same degree in 2015? Can small town students find success in the “real world”? Today’s guest is no stranger to innovation. Phil Drake started programming a computer in 1977 when computers still had to be programmed by hand if you wanted them to do anything. You might think that such a forward thinking individual would come from New York City or LA or San Francisco, but this entrepreneur started life on a farm as the son of the local “tax man”. Let’s listen in to the story of a fascinating homegrown businessman.